How amazing is Chrissie Wellington, she is in a class of her own at the moment. 8:19:13. As you can probably see I quite like Chrissie. What a run, 2:48:54, can anyone match her in Hawaii?
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Chrissie in Roth
Alex R- **MicroMan World Record Holder**
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
While the Roth bike is short by about 5km, the run is very close to exact. That time is amazing. Not many blokes who could run like that. Keep in mind, her run V the open world marathon record for women makes it even more amazing.
Julie H- Posts : 51
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What is the women's marathon record? Is it about 2:24??
Dave Tyno- Posts : 182
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From iaaf.org
2:15:25 Paula Radcliffe GBR 17/12/1973 1 London 13/04/2003
2:15:25 Paula Radcliffe GBR 17/12/1973 1 London 13/04/2003
David B- Posts : 22
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Chrissie is the first woman to push IM to match other sports. Women are typically 10% slower than men (at the elite level) across most sports, but have lagged behind in IM for a long time.
So in that regard I view Chrissie as realising the potential of her gender in the sport rather than being a freak of nature. Will have to wait till a few of the taller ITU girls move up to see any competition at that level though.
Really needs to lift the swim a bit more to get into the mens bike pack at Hawaii...
So in that regard I view Chrissie as realising the potential of her gender in the sport rather than being a freak of nature. Will have to wait till a few of the taller ITU girls move up to see any competition at that level though.
Really needs to lift the swim a bit more to get into the mens bike pack at Hawaii...
Paul F- Coach
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it's a scary thought
I still think she is improving. What is unfortunate for her is that she doesn't have a rival to keep raising the bar.
Look at other sports when they hit their peaks it generally occurs when you have two superior athletes.
Nadal v's Fedarer
Ali v's Foreman
Williams sisters
Mark Allen v's Dave Scott
It sounds silly but if Chrissie can swim 2-3 min faster, ride another 5min quick and complete another sub 2:50 run, there would be strong chance of her getting into the top 10 overall.
Didn't PNF come inside the top 10 once.
Chrissie, will have a few more suprises up her sleeve before she retires. History in the making.
fluro
Really needs to lift the swim a bit more to get into the mens bike pack at Hawaii...
I still think she is improving. What is unfortunate for her is that she doesn't have a rival to keep raising the bar.
Look at other sports when they hit their peaks it generally occurs when you have two superior athletes.
Nadal v's Fedarer
Ali v's Foreman
Williams sisters
Mark Allen v's Dave Scott
It sounds silly but if Chrissie can swim 2-3 min faster, ride another 5min quick and complete another sub 2:50 run, there would be strong chance of her getting into the top 10 overall.
Didn't PNF come inside the top 10 once.
Chrissie, will have a few more suprises up her sleeve before she retires. History in the making.
fluro
Wayne_tri62- Posts : 22
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
Brett Sutton, (Chrissy's former coach's take on it) http://www.teamtbb.com/?option=com_content&task=view&id=1057
Rebekah Keat (Aussie) finished 2nd, at 8hr:52min. Being 33 minutes down on Chrissy (close to 7%) meaning had it been a WTC race and the old rule still in place only First and second female get paid.
I still am amazed that Chrissy ran a 2:48, and then you look at her bike spit of 4:35 and I faint
Chrissie finished CLOSER to the 1st male than she did to the 2nd Female!!! That would be rare in itself...
Amazingly, great Aussie Pete Jacobs nearly got chicked by her AND she out split him by 5 mins on the run leg...
In regard to her wins over the IM distance, here is the devastating score
2007
1st Ironman Korea
1st Kona
2008
1st Australia
1st Germany
1st Kona
2009
1st Australia
1st Roth
1st Kona
2010
1st Roth
she is fantastic
Rebekah Keat (Aussie) finished 2nd, at 8hr:52min. Being 33 minutes down on Chrissy (close to 7%) meaning had it been a WTC race and the old rule still in place only First and second female get paid.
I still am amazed that Chrissy ran a 2:48, and then you look at her bike spit of 4:35 and I faint
Chrissie finished CLOSER to the 1st male than she did to the 2nd Female!!! That would be rare in itself...
Amazingly, great Aussie Pete Jacobs nearly got chicked by her AND she out split him by 5 mins on the run leg...
In regard to her wins over the IM distance, here is the devastating score
2007
1st Ironman Korea
1st Kona
2008
1st Australia
1st Germany
1st Kona
2009
1st Australia
1st Roth
1st Kona
2010
1st Roth
she is fantastic
Wayne_tri62- Posts : 22
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
Paul F wrote:it's a scary thought
Really needs to lift the swim a bit more to get into the mens bike pack at Hawaii...
I still think she is improving. What is unfortunate for her is that she doesn't have a rival to keep raising the bar.
Look at other sports when they hit their peaks it generally occurs when you have two superior athletes.
Nadal v's Fedarer
Ali v's Foreman
Williams sisters
Mark Allen v's Dave Scott
It sounds silly but if Chrissie can swim 2-3 min faster, ride another 5min quick and complete another sub 2:50 run, there would be strong chance of her getting into the top 10 overall.
Didn't PNF come inside the top 10 once.
Chrissie, will have a few more suprises up her sleeve before she retires. History in the making.
fluro
Chrissy finished 7th overall at Roth
Paul F- Coach
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
2008
G'day Wayne,
Something else to think about.
Have a look at her IM’s in 2008 and 2009. She did 3 x IM’s in both years. Now if you put on a 12 week IM specific program in front of those 3 x IM’s = 36 weeks of the year she is in IM specific training.
Every since she has stepped onto the scene has she ever looked like being in anything other than top shape. She has always been ripped and ready to race. My guess her training overload would rarely change, it’s not season. She races has her short rest period and then she is onto her next IM specific prep. I can’t imagine she would have big peaks or dips in her training program and I think that is what makes her so mentally tough and why she is constantly improving.
I think in some ways age group athletes complete misuse the whole principle of periodisation. Wellington seems to show that you never need to be that far off peak fitness and being able to handle your peak volumes ALL year round.
It comes back to the basic training week principle. Your ideal and most sustainable basic training week is one that you can continue to execute for 40weeks of the year. That is the week that will lead to long term consistent improvements.
fluro
1st Australia
1st Germany
1st Kona
2009
1st Australia
1st Roth
1st Kona
G'day Wayne,
Something else to think about.
Have a look at her IM’s in 2008 and 2009. She did 3 x IM’s in both years. Now if you put on a 12 week IM specific program in front of those 3 x IM’s = 36 weeks of the year she is in IM specific training.
Every since she has stepped onto the scene has she ever looked like being in anything other than top shape. She has always been ripped and ready to race. My guess her training overload would rarely change, it’s not season. She races has her short rest period and then she is onto her next IM specific prep. I can’t imagine she would have big peaks or dips in her training program and I think that is what makes her so mentally tough and why she is constantly improving.
I think in some ways age group athletes complete misuse the whole principle of periodisation. Wellington seems to show that you never need to be that far off peak fitness and being able to handle your peak volumes ALL year round.
It comes back to the basic training week principle. Your ideal and most sustainable basic training week is one that you can continue to execute for 40weeks of the year. That is the week that will lead to long term consistent improvements.
fluro
Wayne_tri62- Posts : 22
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
great context on her regime. It is not just fantastic ability but also smart and cleaver planning. Last year she did a 70.3 a few weeks (about 5 if I think right) prior to Kona. It was not a win, but in the training cycle leading up to the ‘big dance’ why should she. 2010 will be a great event.
Paul F- Coach
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
G'day Wayne,
Exactly, and how many people do you know that always seem to PB a HIM event 5-6 weeks out from their IM event, almost everyone.
Quite often IM training is too hard in terms of intensity leading to people meeting the demnads of a HIM much better in an IM prep, rather than meeting the demands of IM in an IM specific prep.
You see it all the time. Peole get good to cover 5-7hrs of training, but beyond that most people start slowing down.
Sutton brought up a good point that Chrissie and Rebecca Keat had the same run split from 5km to 21km, beyond that Chrissie held her pace, Keat just slowed down.
fluro
Exactly, and how many people do you know that always seem to PB a HIM event 5-6 weeks out from their IM event, almost everyone.
Quite often IM training is too hard in terms of intensity leading to people meeting the demnads of a HIM much better in an IM prep, rather than meeting the demands of IM in an IM specific prep.
You see it all the time. Peole get good to cover 5-7hrs of training, but beyond that most people start slowing down.
Sutton brought up a good point that Chrissie and Rebecca Keat had the same run split from 5km to 21km, beyond that Chrissie held her pace, Keat just slowed down.
fluro
Wayne_tri62- Posts : 22
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Re: Chrissie in Roth
Hi. just to add fuel to the fire, my wife found this thread with Chrissy's more detailed results since she commenced in 2006
http://www.chrissiewellington.org/results/
what stood out (besides the absurd amount of number 1's) is the consistency with times.. Even at 22nd place at an ITU event, the time is simply spectacular. Each year is very well balanced for peak performances. Just great
http://www.chrissiewellington.org/results/
what stood out (besides the absurd amount of number 1's) is the consistency with times.. Even at 22nd place at an ITU event, the time is simply spectacular. Each year is very well balanced for peak performances. Just great
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