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    Running. Ironman Studs V little skinny runners.

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    Alex R
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    Running. Ironman Studs V little skinny runners.

    Post by Alex R on Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:10 pm

    As a very good example that your ability to do well in an Ironman triathlon is somethong that you train very differently to a pure running race, check the results of the local Half Mara where I live......

    1 Geoffrey Mutai 14 KEN 00:59:43 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    2 Tadese Tola 8 ETH 00:59:49 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    3 Titus Masai 5 KEN 00:59:51 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    4 Getu Feleke 4 ETH 00:59:56 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    5 Jairus Chanchima 3 KEN 01:00:31 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    6 Stephen Kibiwott 10 KEN 01:00:38 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    7 Josphat Ndambiri 12 KEN 01:01:07 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    8 Willy Mwangi 11 KEN 01:01:21 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    9 John Kiprotich 17 KEN 01:01:41 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    10 Fabiano Joseph 9 TAN 01:01:43 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    11 Tilahun Aliyev 20 AZE 01:02:14 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    12 John Wambua 13 KEN 01:02:17 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    13 David Mandago 15 KEN 01:02:33 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    14 Elvan Abeylegesse 32 TUR 01:07:07 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    15 Mare Dibaba 35 ETH 01:07:13 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    16 Aselefech Mergia 40 ETH 01:07:22 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    17 Teyba Erkesso 37 ETH 01:07:41 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    18 Dire Tune 31 ETH 01:07:58 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    19 Edward Gitonga 900 KEN 01:08:16 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    20 Atsede Habtamu 41 ETH 01:08:30 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    21 Hilda Kibet 39 NED 01:08:39 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    22 Agnes Kiprop 33 KEN 01:08:48 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    23 Yassin Kedir 1881 ETH 01:09:32 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    24 Saif Al Rashedi 1883 UAE 01:10:51 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    25 Koren Yal 36 ETH 01:10:52 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    26 Magdalena Makunzi 45 KEN 01:11:11 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    27 Othmane Chaibi 1885 MAR 01:11:11 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    28 Meseret Mengistu 43 ETH 01:11:21 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    29 Ali Khalifa Al Wahshee 1739 UAE 01:11:45 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    30 Thomas Opio 1837 USA 01:11:47 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    31 Rosaria Console 42 ITA 01:11:49 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    32 Rehan Mubarak 1804 MAR 01:12:20 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    33 Faris Al-Sultan 3015 GER 01:12:43 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    34 Bader Hareb Al Alawi 1882 UAE 01:13:23 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    35 Jacquline Nyetipei 44 KEN 01:13:24 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    36 Alaraby Ibra 1924 MAR 01:13:41 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    37 Gezashign Safarova 47 AZE 01:14:02 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    38 Alemayehu Sitotaw 53 NOR 01:16:00 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    39 Mubarak Musabah Salem Sari 1886 UAE 01:16:44 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    40 Swen Sundberg 3014 GER 01:17:07 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    41 Mohammed Mahmood Tahlak 1843 UAE 01:19:26 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    42 Chris McCann 851 GBR 01:19:51 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    43 Chris Sellar 478 GBR 01:20:00 Faster than Average Finish Download Certificate
    44 Andy Keron 346 GBR 01:20:02 Faster than Average Finish


    I highlighted three names. The first of course is the winner. The second is IM World Champ Faris Al Sultan and the third is a local Age Group Triathlete who within a month of this race did a 4:50 Half Ironman.

    It shows the whole spectrum of how running is vastly different to triathlon. Now to use Chris as an example (and I intend ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENCE) he would not finish within an hour of Faris over an Ironman yet is just a few minutes back Faris is even further behind the winner. Faris of course is a triathlete first and a runner second.

    It just shows that you train for a triathlon NOT to be a runner if you want to be a successful (World Class) triathlete.
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    Dave Tyno

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    Re: Running. Ironman Studs V little skinny runners.

    Post by Dave Tyno on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:31 am

    I think the reaction to Crowie's CDA run leg sums it up well.
    2:46 is 30% slower than a likely winning Mara time these days, but I've seen it stated as evidence that there are still fast IM runners around.
    The fastest woman on the day went 3:03 - again about 30% slower than the equivalent female marathon winner.
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    Matt C

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    Re: Running. Ironman Studs V little skinny runners.

    Post by Matt C on Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 am

    Ok lets start assuming..

    to win a HIM at clearwater... ralert won with a run off the bike of of 1:09

    Chris ran a stand alone of 1:20 which is damm quick and faster than me so I would say off the bike he could run 1:30 easy....
    20mins in a HIM difference

    double it up to an ironman and Ralert can run a
    2:45? and Chris could run a 3:30?
    and by my crude maths 45mins at an ironman distance... if chris can do that run.. on a 5hr bike and a 1hr swim.. he is only aprox 1hr behind Faris. who is not as fast as he used to be

    there is not great drop off in expected run times

    so why are we comparing an aged ex champ to the elite HalfMarathoners in the world to a good solid age grouper.. what do you think Ralert HIM'er could run stand alone? 1:05, down from his 1:09 at clearwater?

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