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    Post by Glenn C Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:54 am

    Anyone going? Training has been very broken the last 1-2 months, but as I had already booked flights I will be heading up anyway. I will look like this, say hello.

    <a href="https://s340.photobucket.com/albums/o356/Glennc_02/?action=view&current=NepeanBike.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://2img.net/h/i340.photobucket.com/albums/o356/Glennc_02/NepeanBike.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    Red old style Specialized Transition/Hed3C front/Zipp disc rear. Very skinny legs Embarassed

    Edit: Can anyone get the link up for me?
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    Post by Blair V Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:07 am

    I'll be there. Just had my last hit out at Robina this morning and feeling pretty confident.
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    Post by Dave Tyno Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:00 am

    Anyone going to Gundi? NepeanBike

    Edit: I just used the "Direct Link" from the Photobucket site and the "Insert Image" function here.

    PS - The Madeline West pic is wayyyy better Smile
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    Post by Phill K Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:08 am

    Wish I was!
    Maybe next year!
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    Post by Wayne_tri62 Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:48 am

    Doing my first long distance tri at Gundi, only done a few Noosa's.
    Bit nervous about the swim. Training has been very interrupted with work and family.

    Is there a current at the swim or is it friendly?

    I will be on 2005'ish black Specialized S-works, I will be the one at the swim in the RS1 swim suit shaking uncontrollably.
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    Post by Glenn C Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:31 am

    Are we even allowed to wear them? I have the TYR sionara I bought for Hawaii. TA and associates seem to change their minds at every race. None say you can't wear them they just make up really stupid rules that make them unwearable like the recent one I received in my email box from Tri ACT Shocked

    Swim is almost currentless.Not enough rain. You know when you are back near the boat ramp because you can hear the irrigation pump from the farm accross the river.
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    Post by Rex R Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:06 am

    I'm heading down for my second HOTW - training has been patchy with not much cycling and no swimming at all for 3 weeks. Great race - its going to hurt though...
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    Post by a.sawatske Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:25 am

    possibly a triathlnet meet up somewhere?
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    Post by Wayne_tri62 Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:22 am

    [quote="Glenn C"]Are we even allowed to wear them? I have the TYR sionara I bought for Hawaii. TA and associates seem to change their minds at every race. None say you can't wear them they just make up really stupid rules that make them unwearable like the recent one I received in my email box from Tri ACT Shocked
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    Hi guys got this from the Guru's at hell of the west:

    'Athletes are able to wear speed suits (with trisuit underneath but must not be thicker than 6mm together). They are able to be removed in transition.

    Thanks

    Anna Dawson
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    www.hellofthewest.com' Cool

    and as for a meet up, any idea, at place or time. Hint, I got a room at the Royal Hotel from Friday to Sunday nite, I think Saturday may be a quiet night at this stage for me Laughing
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    Post by Glenn C Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:27 am

    Thanks Wayne, I guess I will pack it then
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    Post by a.sawatske Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:13 am

    [quote="Wayne_tri62"]
    Glenn C wrote:Are we even allowed to wear them? I have the TYR sionara I bought for Hawaii. TA and associates seem to change their minds at every race. None say you can't wear them they just make up really stupid rules that make them unwearable like the recent one I received in my email box from Tri ACT Shocked
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    Hi guys got this from the Guru's at hell of the west:

    'Athletes are able to wear speed suits (with trisuit underneath but must not be thicker than 6mm together). They are able to be removed in transition.

    Thanks

    Anna Dawson
    HOTW Administrator
    Ph. 0412 761961
    www.hellofthewest.com' Cool

    and as for a meet up, any idea, at place or time. Hint, I got a room at the Royal Hotel from Friday to Sunday nite, I think Saturday may be a quiet night at this stage for me Laughing

    I think that is where I am at as well...
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    Post by Wayne_tri62 Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:14 am

    Well I did my first long triathlon after all my nervous attacks leading up to it. I was expecting huge change from racing Noosa 3x times (biggest events I have been to) and stepping up to this distance, and I was not disappointed. Big worry was the swim, always has been, but got there and was happy.

    Being my first Tri out side OD I will write a report when I come down from my high. We stayed the extra night, and it is worth it.

    But my time was 5:28, I pretty well nailed nutrition I think, I felt better at the end of HOTW than I did at my first Noosa.

    Thanks to Crab, after a few meets and the advice was invaluable, one cool dude, thanks

    blush.gif but as from now.. well if Noosa is held on the same time as Port HIM, then I am off to Port.

    I will be a HOTW repeat offender from now on.

    I was amazed and humbled by the community support through out my adventure, the people at the 40k turn around where just farrrken amazing. It beats Noosa hands down. My hurt on the run was quelled by the constant cheering and people you do not even know calling out your name, fantastic. The recovery at the end of the race was great, the ladies at the massage tables wonderful.

    I think you get the picture. Gundy rules. Very Happy Very Happy Smile cheers
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    Post by Blair V Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:57 pm

    Well, if you are not a confident open water swimmer I would not recommend Hell Of The West. At 5am in the pre-dawn darkness with silhouettes of red gums looming over us I dove into the river and complete darkness. It was quite eerie floating about in a dark river while every so often a spotlight shone on us from the shore. Then the hooter sounded and we were off.

    As usual I positioned myself towards the back and just set off slowly doing my thing but I was surprised by the number of times I got kicked in the head or had someone swim over me or into me. Nevertheless, I got into a comfortable rhythm and as time went on the light improved and allowed me to tell whether I was heading in the right direction. The occasional bit of reed freaked me out a bit but not as much as the stick jutting straight up out of the water just to my left. I swam carefully around that one!

    Before too long the bridge came in sight and I knew that the turnaround was coming up but then I saw a short jetty which made me think of the story of my father-in-law pulling a dead body out of this very river and suddenly I could taste the water and it didn’t taste very nice. But then I reached the turnaround and was on my way back to the boat ramp.

    I got out of the water in just over 40 minutes exactly according to plan and began the long run to transition. Someone directed me onto the footpath instead of running along the road which was a good idea but I had to cross the road at some point and, wouldn’t you know it, just as a photographer took my photo, I stepped on a sharp stone which hurt like hell.

    As I ran into the transition area I spied Lisa with the camera and she shouted out to me that my bike was five rows down. Thank gods she did because I had no idea. I had tried to count them before the race but couldn’t manage it because I wasn’t sure where I’d be coming in from the swim and because of nerves. There was also the fact that I had set up in transition in complete darkness and was now coming back in daylight so everything looked completely different.

    Once I was out on the road and had put my shoes on I pulled out a banana to eat. I managed to get half of it down before I hit a bump in the road and the other half jolted out of my hand so I got down on my bars and prepared for the long ride out. It was here that I discovered where my training had been lacking as I could not stay down on the bars for very long at a time without it hurting my nether regions and I had to sit up regularly for some relief.

    I was cruising along comfortably at about 32km/hr and not pushing too hard, saving myself for the ride back but I couldn’t work out whether there was a tail wind or not - I am hopeless at working it out usually. The trees by the side of the road didn’t seem to be moving at all so I figured that there mustn’t be a tail wind. At least, I hoped there wasn’t because if there was then I should have been moving at least 1-2km/hr faster. I don’t think I felt comfortable at any time during the ride out but I was passing people occasionally and making reasonable progress.

    Immediately after the turnaround I grabbed a banana to replace the half I’d dropped earlier so my concentration was elsewhere and I didn’t immediately notice the instant headwind. But it didn’t take long for my speed to drop from 32km/hr down to 25km/hr. I settled down on my bars again and began the long struggle home. For the next 40km I only passed a couple of riders but seemed to be passed by a steady stream. At times, a gust of wind would slow me down further and I’d only be able to manage 22-23km/hr.

    The longer it took to get back to Gundy the harder it got and all sorts of lovely niggles started to surface in my knees and hammies and then a new one in my lower back/glutes which felt like I’d been stabbed. The only things worthy of note on the ride back were the three dead boars on the side of the road which, combined with the playing of Duelling Banjos prior to the race briefing, did not leave me feeling entirely comfortable and the sun finally burning through the clouds just as I was getting back to Gundy to begin my run.

    I was so happy to get to the dismount point and jump off the bike but I quickly found that my legs were so stiff that I could barely walk let alone run. I headed out of transition managing a very slow run but I could feel my legs improving rapidly and began the run at quite a good pace. It was pretty hot with the sun out and the first aid station seemed a lot further than a km away so I was quite thirsty by the time I got there. I walked through the aid station, drank some Pepsi, poured a bottle of water over my head and set off again.

    Although my pace was alright I wasn’t feeling too good. Not helping was that every time I approached the end of a street which I thought was the turnaround I discovered that the course kept going along a path or something. I was quite surprised when I finally did reach the turnaround and found that I had only run 3.3km. It had seemed so much further. I was still stuffed when I got back to the finish line but as I rounded the tractor the crowd seemed to have an affect on me and I suddenly seemed to have a lot more energy as I headed back out for my second lap.

    After walking through every aid station on the first lap, I now started running through the aid stations grabbing a bottle of water to throw over my head and a cup of ice to tip down my shirt and in my cap. At the turnaround I had a gel. It was an orange Hammer gel which I’d got free at another race and I’d never tried before; it tasted disgusting! I washed it down with water but there just wasn’t enough in the bottle and I had to grab another bottle at the next aid station to finish the job.

    By the third lap the sun had disappeared behind the clouds again which made it a bit cooler but there was still a headwind on the way back. My pace had now slowed from 5:30min/km in the first two laps to over 6min/km and I was struck by the pain in the lower back/glutes again. I kept running and dug my fingers in to try to alleviate the problem which seemed to work but it struck again once or twice more.

    With a couple of kms to go I decide to give it all I got and managed the last 2kms in 5min each finally crossing the line in just over 5hrs 28min - about 10 minutes slower than I had been hoping for but it’s pretty obvious that I didn’t do enough work on the bike so probably the time I deserved. I was pretty happy with the swim and the run though.

    As a postscript, in the recovery area, I was talking to a couple of people when a photographer took our photo and told me he’d catch up with me later. I assumed he wanted our names for the paper or something and thought nothing of it. However, it turned out that he was writing an article about the race and had heard about our fund raising efforts and wanted to include it in the article. I am assuming that he found out about us through the link that the race organisers were good enough to put on their web site so a big thanks to them for that.

    Although I wasn’t feeling completely compos mentis I did my best to give him an interview until Lisa came along to save me and give him a few pertinent details. All in all, a rather unexpected end to a very long day.

    I raced this race for Kate to raise money for research into Glioblastoma Multiforme (GBM) by the wonderful people at the Queensland Institute of Medical Research (QIMR). For Kate’s story and to donate to this worthy cause please go to http://www.everydayhero.com.au/forkate.
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    Post by Alex R Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:09 pm

    HAH! Excellent work. Thanks for the write up.
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    Post by Glenn C Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:30 am

    Hi Guys, Just a quick one. I had a good weekend all things considered.

    Exited the swim in 32ish missing the bunch up the road. Hit the 40k mark in 58ish and new it would be windy on the way home. I missed the bunch of 20 up the road and had considered trying to catch them before turning into the wind as I knew they would then put big time into me, I didn't take the chance to...they did put time into me. Ended up soloing home with my own little train until 20k to go before they fell away to leave me by myself. No 88 was the only one who tried to do any work, but he tired near the 60k mark. I kinda already knew the AG winners would come from the bunch 5 mins up the road. Other than that group I saw no other blatant drafting on the course. 2.05 bike time solo.

    Felt great off the bike went through the first 7 k on 3.30 avg pace faded due to lack of miles and a slight pelvis glute injury since coming off the bike in December. But still very happy with a 1.14.58 run split. I passed alot of guys on the run who were probably on pretty rested legs from that bunch of 20 on the bike. Without seeing the results yet could only noticeably see Mackenzie putting time into me on the run. 3.57 overall. My goals were place in AG (never have at Gundi), run 1.15, get under 4hrs. I had all but given up on getting under 4 hrs after getting injured and didn't really figure on having enough running done (<40k/wk) to hold the back end together on the run fortunately it was enough not to fade too much. So it was a nice suprise.


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    Post by Glenn C Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:34 am

    Anyone seen the results?
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    Post by Glenn C Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:18 am

    Hi Blair, Its always a tail wind on the way out and head wind home at Gundi. Always hold back on the trip out so like most you don't fade from the 60km mark.
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    Post by Dave B Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:21 am

    Glenn C
    I have seen the results ...
    you are very fast !! Razz
    great race and sub 1.15 run Shocked
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    Post by Glenn C Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:49 am

    The low temps on the day made the racing ALOT faster than usual.
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    Post by Wayne_tri62 Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:02 am

    Glenn C wrote:The low temps on the day made the racing ALOT faster than usual.

    Razz mate for some,
    results are up on the HOTW site

    ... 5.24 for my first long course,, I am very happy with that. as a matter of fact stoked... after my panic attacks prior to the swim,
    I will be returning to HOTW and as a matter of fact I may replace Port Mac HIM instead of Noosa. I learnt so much, ie
    :thongs at the end of swim.
    :bike shoes on feet, not on bike, the road was so rough
    :I put way to much tucker and drink on my bike, 3 gels and the bannans would of been plenty.
    :as for the run, for a (H) grouper I am happy, and will leave that alone but more heat training.

    and thanx for the advise for the speed suit issue I was going through. Very Happy
    just got to wait for the photos now.

    and congratulations of a great tri forum site.

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